All he could say was, Well I can show you the Scriptures that support this. And I told him he was wrong and one day he would have to stand before God and be judged for this horrendous false teaching and the destruction of so many families would be on his head!! I found this out from a footnote you had in Philadelphia Church of God Info where you quoted from it. However, if they (the members) were able to supplement their donations this way, we thank you for helping offset decreased income from co-workers and donors. [all emp mine] Anonymous, GF has placed John Cocomise over the Eastern part of the United States, and Cal Culpepper and his wife have moved to TX. When you remind them that nothing significant happened last Jan 16, they have nothing to say. The reality of this camp and the horrific parts are going to be left out. Also, I dont know what was wrong with Davis throat but he was continually clearing it, which was a big distraction. HWAs WCG became more abusive and controlling after about 1955 or 1956, but it appears that his ministry was never an honest outreach and that he was a narcissistic sociopath from the very beginning. He had alerted the WCG ministry and members of those changes via his booklet Malachi's Message, after which he and his assistant, John Amos, were fired. "[77] He also prophesied that Donald Trump would be "taken out by the sword!". Texas. The time to have made a clean break, if not in the 70s, was after the WCG changes in 1995. We have been dating exclusively for the last four months. ", "You Simply Can't Trust the Philadelphia Trumpet", "Why I Left the Philadelphia Church of God", "Australasia Increasing Trumpet Distribution Through Waiting Room Program", "Gerald Flurry's Insanity With the New Throne of David", "Herbert W. 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You can find this open letter of his in the February 2006 Trumpet Print Edition online and the recent re-worked one in the PCG church articles online. Injuries with this type of dancing are not uncommon. It is a day to celebrate nothing of significance! He is trying to capitalize on the warm fuzzies of yesteryear. The Bible shows sin in the world is due to the fallen state of mantalked about in Genesis 3. PCGs offering on the Feast of Trumpets this year (which was observed Sept 19) was: $38,691.70 and there were 353 in attendance. P. Shameless Sermonette by Andrew Locher Exploits Members Financially: In the recent PCG sermonette Andrew Locher continues to ask brethren to give to the church despite having little. H. This reminded me of the 2011 letter by one former PCG member who burnt all of PCG stuff in a big bon-fire and it took him 90 minutes: Burnt All of Gerald Flurrys Literature.. He also covered the subject in his 2019 booklet, entitled, January 16: Gods Miracle Day. 'Freely you have receivedfreely give ' We want to share God's truth with as many who want to receive it. Update: We were told that he died of some kind of intestinal problems. We gotta stand against this spiritual wickedness., Says, Were going to be surrounded by the wicked; like were walking on a bed of scorpions. Armstrong didnt really make any spectacular discoveries like we have but that he paved the way for us.. [94] Ex-members of the PCG claim that Flurry uses his power to "command absolute obedience" of church members, and threatens their salvation for disobedience. In January 1990 Gerald Flurry and John Amos broke away from the Worldwide Church of God and began a new church called "The Philadelphia Church of God." They have pointed out many of the drastic changes Worldwide is going through, and claims to want to return to the faith of Herbert Armstrong, whom they look upon as "Elijah." The temple veil (signifying man was separated from God by sin) was torn the moment Jesus died. True leaders will want others to challenge and question them. We are going to be born into Gods family. We are god?? If you prove this from your Bible [i. e., about the Elijah being HWA], you can know that we are in the end timeand that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is almost here.. More is found in GFs book The New Throne of David, 2018: I doubt if PCG will be going anywhere. This rosy evaluation is suspect from the standpoint that we also think it is the church era to which we believe we belong. Its where the name of Israel is!, [Refers to Isaiah 16] We have a throne. What is the Spiritual Status of People in the WCG Offshoots? In other words adding to Scripture. (I John 5:13)], We must believe what God is doing! [60] A few weeks later, the Supreme Court declined to hear their petition. The Philadelphia Church of God is a non-denominational Christian church which traces it roots back to the Worldwide Church of God, founded by Herbert W. Armstrong in 1934. ), One of GFs most glaring errors in all of this is his teaching that America and Britain are modern-day Israel. Prove that false and there is no more modern Jeroboam or Jeroboam-End or our nations going into captivity.. Every picture I see when he is standing and posing for the camera shows his hands positioned as this. Former member of PCG. [29], In this book, he states that Armstrong fulfilled the prophesied role of "God's end-time Elijah", and the role of "the Man of Sin" was by Joseph Tkach Sr., and after his death, this was changed to Joseph Tkach Jr. Update: We were told that he died of some kind of intestinal problems. Again, I wondered if he was talking about PCG? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. dismissed April 14, 2003), Deposition of Ruth Tucker at 169-70. Jesus said He would send the Holy Spirit when He went away, back to Heaven. Comment by ESN: Some splinter groups who claim they are Gods true church have put forth some kind of open letter to try and gain more members. Well, Gerald Flurry can stir up vicious hatred towards those not of his cult. The letter to the church at Philadelphia is the one to which most current church members relate. [163] In 2015, the PCG opened a second campus at their Edstone mansion in the United Kingdom. N. Reply: New World Order is the same as one world government. [98] He claims that God is pleading with mankind and that those who don't respond to his message will experience the worst time of suffering ever on this planet! We must be willing to go anyplace and do anything God wants. As you can see, part of the link in the article indicates Active Campaign which really proves its part of their recruitment process. Those with strong convictions will leave, expose the organization, and trust God to help them with whatever comes their way. I had some good friends in PCG and, of course, they would not speak to me. As Christians in America, and especially the PCA, are still reeling and grieving with our brothers and sisters at Covenant Presbyterian Church and the Covenant School in Nashville, there is an understandable and appropriate righteous indignation that we have all felt welling up . The Trumpet Daily radio show hosted by the executive editor of The Philadelphia Trumpet Stephen Flurry, speaking on a range of topics including politics, principles of living and bible prophecy. After all, isnt the outcome going to be contested in the courts? The online article just shortens the list and updates it with 2020. It is the Beast System and will include the Mark of the Beast. Gerald Flurry is Pastor General of the Philadelphia Church of God and Editor-in-Chief of The Philadelphia Trumpet magazine. He also covered the subject in his 2019 booklet, entitled, where it says Flurry prophesied that Trump will ally with Joe Tkach Jr. and the WCG and finally kick the PCG members out of the USA, exiling them to Jordan/Petra. But the. I went to school with Davids younger brother Stephen. He added we will need Gods special protection to survive. Throughout all these scenes of violence and telling us what is coming, he says our hope is only Christ returning because human survival is at stake. All this fear steers one to listen to more videos and order more literature so one might escape. The CDC just came out with a report that should be earth-shattering to the narrative of the political class, yet it will go into the thick pile of vital data and information about the virus that is not getting out to the public. Yet looking back at history, the world was in terrifying times when HWA first started broadcasting. [103], Amid the Coronavirus pandemic, British newspaper Express noted that religious fundamentalists such as the PCG have flooded social media with prophecies out of the Book of Revelation. S. PCG evangelist Alex Harrison has died. The Philadelphia Church of God is a spiritual family with members in 50 countries living the abundant way of life revealed in the Bible. In the Ezekiel booklet GF says that HWAs message was not delivered in such terrifying times like today. Gerald Flurry sits on King David's Throne, Armstrong International Cultural Foundation (AICF), Armstrong Institute of Biblical Archaeology (AIBA), Cottrell, Jack "What the Bible Says About God the Redeemer" Wipf and Stock (2000) p. 139, Tucker Expert Report at 22, Worldwide Church of God v. Philadelphia Church of God, No. Presently I am not in any religious group and prefer it that way. Anyway, around early this year, they made the ruling that no one should have smartphones. There are countless others who still need what youre putting out there. Shows how the church is not spiritual Israel) (also covers Galatians 6:16) [offsite article]. The elites at the highest level are busy controlling the masses by fear, and it is all draconian. This article was so full of baloney that I only gave a few quotes. E. Reply: It doesnt seem to be happening anymore, especially since 1974 when 70 ministers left the WCG and exposed the hypocrisy and double standards at HQs. Jesus does not help us get through to the Father. Why call Paul when there were twelve others to work through? What happened to total trust in the Lord Jesus who gives eternal life that cannot be taken away? Are Gods people going to have to go through it? And why would they? Talk of this prayer rock is covered in the February 21, 2017 letter: PCG to Take HWAs Prayer Rock When They Flee and February 28, 2017 letter: Flurry Says PCGs Scone of Stone is Now HWAs Old Prayer Rock.. The whole situation seemed kind of fishy to begin with and after losing several friends at that point I was starting to get jaded. If things get really bad in this country, the leaders will be more interested in saving their own hides, if they can. The only proof was being in the PCG at that time, and finding it in PCG literature. Not only has GF re-written much of what Herbert Armstrong wrote, they are now re-writing the Bible with their heresies. He said HWA knew the time was short and then he quickly added short for him., He told how its not enough to have the Holy Spirit, we have to grow in grace which means growing in character. (buzzword), Are you a good student? He is our Advocate (helper, adviser, or counselor from the Greek word parakleton) in the sense of pleading our case because He has already satisfied the demands of the Law. I was told by my father-in-law who is in contact with someone still inside the PCG that Gerald Flurry asked for a Church wide fast and prayer for a land deal in Israel to succeed. He was the right hand man of GF and was the cause of many problems in PCG. He started reading from John 11:7 and told some things that GF had saidhow the disciples had feared for Christs life when he said let us go to Judea and they wondered why Christ would want to go there; its too dangerous. Told how GF said Christ didnt decide where to go or not to go based on how dangerous it was. They will refer to Jesus Christ but never say Lord Jesus, or Jesus is Lord. Joe Tkach Jr. has been retired from GCI [Grace Communion International] for at least a year. H. Comment by ESN: Some splinter groups who claim they are Gods true church have put forth some kind of open letter to try and gain more members. [124][128], The PCG believes that Mystery of the Ages is "God's inspired words",[129][130] that Armstrong was merely a scribe with "God pouring those words into his mind. We are sons of Zadok, [I thought we were the sons of God. Session | Philadelphia Church of God Sign In Login Please log in with your pcog.org username and password. [95] Flurry stated "I sometimes feel real good when I'm called a cult" in a sermon from 1990. The PCG runs a small unaccredited theology college, Herbert W. Armstrong College, from their headquarters compound in Edmond, Oklahoma. I noticed right off how depressing and full of dread they were. Most Bible scholars acknowledge this. [123] In September 2002, during a Feast of Tabernacles sermon, Flurry stated "the court case is a battle with the devil" and "he would not make a deal with such an evil force - he will only fight. TX. Comment: The father of Brian Davis is Winston Davis, a Preaching Elder in South Carolina, who got remarried himself on November 22, 2020 to Brenda Fox. Somewhere in that time frame Ambassador students were doing some kind of dig in the Holy Land. [166] The church claims that "Imperial teaches young people how to base their learning and thinking on the Holy Bible. Australia. They start the day with a 15-minute calisthenics warmup before breakfast. During the day their time will be filled with sports instruction on every sport imaginable. The article. Also, the Flurrys are trying to create the impression that they are growing in numbers and so theyre propping up that illusion in the minds of their members. Read: Edmond Elite Youth Being Taught How to Riverdance (Irish Dancing (Oct 1, 2013 letter). [Be sure and read: Gerald Flurrys Grand Ideas Reaping Only Struggle and Hardship (June 12, 2016 letter)], According to GF, Revelation 3:8 has not denied my name means has not denied my government., Flurry said they might have an opportunity to get on USA Todaya non-cable, news network and they will know next week. [23][26] Disturbed by these changes, local minister Gerald Flurry and his assistant, John Amos "seriously questioned WCG leaders' doctrinal changes", resulting in their termination and excommunication. New truth? H. [144]. [61][62], Gerald Flurry is a self-declared prophet (as written in his book Who Is That Prophet[63]). [167] According to Flurry, SEP "is a vision of how God will correct the problems of the entire world", it helps their "young people turn to God" and to prepare them for "the return of Christ".[168]. B. [Read: Is the Holy Spirit Only the Power of God?]. I was stunned when I put this together. Was this some kind of sanctioned, last ditch recruitment effort towards wayward, former members? Decided: September 18, 2000 Before: BRUNETTI and TASHIMA, Circuit Judges, SCHWARZER,* Senior District Judge. Flurry Does Not Have Enough Faith to Go to a Place of Safety: Id like to add a few comments to the April 5, letter, Members Think They Will be Translated to Place of Safety.. Aiding those spiritually abused by Worldwide Church of God and offshoots. Nothing you can prove from the Bible. [87] He now believes that "in January 2017 that all changed, that throne is no longer in Britain". So it would appear that there is no new prophecy from GF about what will happen January 16, just the usual poppycock speculation. NWO will not be the Wonderful World Tomorrow! Based in McKinney, Texas Baptist [ edit] See also: Baptist Christian Baptist Church of God And its definitely not in the PCG. Anyway, thanks for doing what you do. Surprised When Former Friend in PCG Sent Link to Celtic Throne: I used to be a member of the PCG but I have not been part of the organization for many years. (August 2019) This is a list of the largest megachurches in the United States with an attendance of more than 10,000 weekly, sometimes also termed a gigachurch. His brother Jim is a PCG minister as well. So why are members afraid to meet for services? He started off by telling funny stories, especially about how Mr. Burns hurt his leg by, or on, the obstacle course at camp and later was bleeding, and Davis was later there with his shirt unbuttoned, and he kept laughing about it. Read the February 28, 2017 letter about the Scone of Stone and taking it with them to the place of safety. After the WCG split he followed Colin Sutcliffe into PCG. I questioned in the beginning how many suicides were happening in PCG that are being covered up? Good morning, people of god. On a photo that was sent it said, Evangelist Alex Harrison died Sunday morning, a few days after arriving from Australia to Edmond. [i. e., its about the New Throne of David] . If so, it could be a powerful open door and Maybe God is saying we will really begin to empower our message., He believes PCGs membership will double by the time Christ gets here and Every indication is that we are going to be in the wonderful world tomorrow in a decade., He placed an emphasis on how these discoveries are to be a sign that Jesus Christ is about to return to this earth and that Christs coming is imminent!. First of all, I think your website is of tremendous value to those waking up. Flurry does not love his neighbor as himself, as Christ commands. If I kept talking until 1:00 in the morning, some of you still wouldnt get it. (Something HWA always said; buzzword. The royal family is no longer the royal family and the Queen is no longer on the throne. Seriously? When you remind them that nothing significant happened last Jan 16, they have nothing to say. The Philadelphia Church of God (PCG) is a non-trinitarian, sabbatarian church based in Edmond, Oklahoma, US. Toggle menu. He said there is where the open door is. [97] Flurry believes that God continues to give him new revelation[73] and that he speaks for God. Members Think They Will be Translated to Place of Safety: Members still think they will be going to the place of safety but now they believe God will translate them from where they are to there when the time comes. Even now, the United Kingdom NO LONGER HAS THE THRONE OF DAVID. [name withheld]. Philadelphia Church of God, No. [27][28][29][30][31][excessive citations] Flurry went on to establish the Philadelphia Church of God in Oklahoma in 1989. Gerald Flurry Throwing All Caution to the Wind / Date Setting. B. PCG emphasizes HWA at every opportunity but they also have some very evil people in their upper echelons. From a messaging standpoint, this was definitely a marketing piece that furthered some of the doctrinal messages of the PCG. 87 said it was very rare to spread the coronavirus if asymptomatic and wondering if members would be less afraid to meet. [105], Malachi's Message is Flurry's explanation of the WCG's departure from Armstrong's teachings. His August 1 article, Psalm 89: Jeremiah Speaks to the PCG is such a one. Browse and download booklets, stream music, read magazines and more. [112] The show premiered on May 9, 2011, and is available through their website, their radio station KPCG and SoundCloud. This verse doesnt mean this at all. Herbert Armstrong and the New World Order: What is New World Order? Were going to unite the world!, Satan is always going to be coming after us if God allows it., [laughs a little] When we went to Australasia, the FBI denied my Visa for no reason at all. The Philadelphia Church of God is non-denominational, a spiritual family with members in dozens of nations around the world of every age, race, educational and socio-economic background, yet all dedicated to living . [161], The college was established in 2001 as "Imperial College of Edmond," but was renamed after objections by Imperial College London. M. I was very afraid of them while I was there. SF Changes His Tune According to How He Can Use This Crisis: On the latest Trumpet Daily broadcast SF was being sarcastic in his usual loud voice which rises and falls. They continue to berate, criticize and even label this government leadership as Jeroboam who will evict them, yet had the audacity to compare their plight to the Israelites benefiting from the Egyptians. Nos. B. Says It Is Very Rare to Spread Coronavirus If Asymptomatic: Since the news came out yesterday from a top scientist from W.H.O. The WCG described it as a "synopsis of the Bible in the most plain and understandable language". Their latest dance production follows the millennia-long journey of King David's throne from Judah to the British Isles and eventually, the United States. Some time ago I stopped believing the teachings of this group. They keep their names as members unless marked. Flurry will use any fear he thinks will work, so it just depends on what is in the news at the time. [Suzanne died 12-3-19] However, being Brian Davis wife she would have suffered in the faith and died in the faith. S. Gerald Flurry Can Stir Up Vicious Hatred: In the June 23 Trumpet there is an article that declares Satan is behind the hatred for Jews (2 Corinthians 4:4). The article goes on to say, Satan can stir up vicious hatred, Trumpet editor in chief Gerald Flurry explains in his book The Key of David. Fifty percent of Gods people who turn away from Him are going to die forever! [On the contrary, we have assurance of eternal life now. He flies off the handle because there has been a division in PCG over The New Throne of David., I will quote some of his fear-drenched words: (my comments in brackets in purple, bolding mine, italics GFs), At some point you must stop the murmuring and rebelling, or youre going to die! S. What GF and SF Emphasize and Dont Emphasize: GF and SF always like to use the words the LIVING Christ. I remember HWA continually shouting or writing in caps: the Work of the LIVING Christ! or on the authority of the LIVING Christ! Theyve always got to add that word LIVING. Today the main ones I hear those words (i. e., the Living Christ) in conjunction with, or used by, is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saintsthe Mormons. But the Celtic Throne production was to make outsiders curious about the church. Irish dancing started several years ago in PCG. [1] [2] According to that The Hartford Institute's database, approximately 50 churches had attendance ranging from 10,000 to 47,000 in 2010. It may have been just a UTI, or kidney stone(s). Previously available on YouTube but restricted since January 2021[153] due to YouTube's stance to "crackdown on violent criminal organizations".[154]. Sure, it is true that if Trump isnt re-elected as president, then Flurry would fall into the category of Deuteronomy 13:1, A dreamer of dreams. Thats right, a false prophet. How come SF isnt censored? spending six to seven hours a day out in the sizzling Oklahoma weatherchasing balls, paddling across lakes and climbing ropes. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. talks about GFs prophesy of Trump being re-elected and deporting all of the PCG members and then being assassinated. PCG being thrown out of the U.S. is also talked about in the December 28, 2018 letter: Im sure all this keeps members focus on how the time is short., Comment: Read excellent 2007 letter from ex-PCGer: , will cover what Christ meant when He said It is finished.. And when the temptation to question or challenge God arises, refrain! He would use news sources that said suitcase size bombs were smuggled out of Russia and they could be anywhere just waiting to be used. To mention one, Glenn Beck has been warning America about the danger of the radical left for decades (since about 2005 or 2006), which is longer than G.F., who, according to Macdonald, started his warnings in 2008. But we all know what happened. Charles Melear. Year Founded: The Philadelphia Church of God broke away from the Worldwide Chruch of God in 1989. And it is clear that HWA taught it. They said they dont back or promote any political people at all. K. Questions About HWAs Ministry / What Is GF up To? (I mentioned a power move in my April 8 letter.) Burns really pounded members over the head with this sermon, even carrying on many times in a mocking or chastening way. There are many other websites mentioning it as well. I finally told them to take me off their mailing list and not send any more! According to Davis, HWAs book Mystery of the Ages is the only book on earth that explains the Bible. [Note: ESN has two critical reviews of this book.] However, I think that we all need to allow the judiciary system of the United Sates of America make its decision first. [136] Mystery of the Ages has been updated at least four times since its first release in 1985.[137][109]. The members are hyper-focused on obeying a plethora of cherry-picked rules. Offers a free one year subscription to the [22] His chosen successor, Joseph Tkach introduced significant doctrinal changes and began to withdraw Armstrong's literature from circulation. While he may be showing accurate scenes, he is placing more fear in people than hope. Ex PCG, PCG ministers caused my wife to divorce me and break up our family after she left WCG and went into PCG. Dear ESN, could I please ask a couple of questions? Been there my whole life, got rekt, can't see the world the same anymore. Colossians 1:14: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins., SF also said that Christ will sit down and talk to our Father about how to remove our sins. Such absolute nonsense. Read article here about how it looks like vast majority of positive results should have been negative (August 29) and The Lockdown Has Gone From a Mistake to a Crime. (September 1) This last one is especially good.

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